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Non-official relationships in Ultraman Mebius 
26th-Aug-2010 09:37 pm
Since in my previous entry on canon couples (albeit my interpretation of canon, which is not always accurate or anything), Mirai/Ryuu keep coming up in the comments (^__^), so I guess I'll have another entry just for Mebius. :)

Just a disclaimer right off the bat, I'm not exactly a shipping person (I guess I've made some progression from 'not comfortable talking about shipping' if I'm making this entry and the previous one), but I'm curious anyway so I can't help posting. So I would appreciate corrections if I've misused terms or something. (Actually, this disclaimer should also be right on top of the canon couple entry, but I really hadn't thought of it then.)

Personally, I don't think there are really official pairings, if any at all (Sakomizu/Misaki I only see because of episode 26, mostly, and George/Marina, not even really sure why--guess I just think their interactions are great), but, unofficial pairing-wise, Mebius seems like the most shippable series out of the toku (or even non-toku) I've seen (though KR Decade comes close). Which, in other words, any unofficial relationship(s) anyone could have come up for Mebius probably wouldn't surprise me. Yes, that includes Mirai/everyone or George/everyone or Sako/coffee cup or the Ultras (guess it has to be only some forms of Mebi and Hikari at this point if I only count characters originally from Mebius) or Bogal/Serizawa (the human, female Bogal, but if anyone can make the monster Bogal works, be my guest :) or any other combination I haven't thought of. But indulge me anyway and tell me your favorite ship(s) (well, only if you want to and don't think I already know of them)? I don't need a reason or anything, but if you would like to give me one, go ahead. :) And yes, even if you are not on my f-list (are there more Mebius fans I don't know of?), feel free to comment. :)

--Wait, I'm not listing my ship(s)? Ah, as I said, I'm not really a shipper, but I love Mirai/Ryuu and am pretty open to other possible pairings (and/or...well, whatever you call three or more people (or things) in the same relationship) I've seen (or might think I have seen) in fics.

(And when I use '/', it really doesn't matter to me who is more 'dominant' in a particular relationship. I guess I should find a better way to simply list off the people (and/or the things) involved without any concerns about that kind of thing.)
Mirai & Ryuu
26th-Aug-2010 03:24 pm (UTC)
"Sako/coffee cup" lol Love this one!
Yuki Misaki could officially fancy Mirai though. Wonder how Mirai would cope with had their date not been interrupted by Yapool;)
26th-Aug-2010 03:37 pm (UTC)
Thanks. I don't remember if I've come up with it myself, but glad you like it. :)

You mean Aya Jinguji from the movie? Ah, I completely forgot her. Yeah, perhaps that is the closest we get for an official canon couple, but I'm not sure how I feel about them other than they seem cute together. :) (And I think it's sweet of Aya to call him her knight...)
27th-Aug-2010 06:41 am (UTC)
Yes, Aya, forgot her name.oops! And to kiss him on the cheek lol. Gave Mirari such a fright, bless him! One thing I really like about Mebius is that it focused on the relationship between crew members, human and aliens, etc. I cried a lot when watching to be honest. (*^__^*) ……
Off topic though, after watching Zero I do wonder if ultramen have their own wife/girlfriend before coming to earth, like 80 and Yullian? Then it's very naughty of Seven to have a relationship with Anne on Earth while he has a son back on his own planet ...
27th-Aug-2010 07:37 am (UTC)
I think Mirai is simply inexperienced about romantic relationship, and Aya kind of loves to tease him on this subject (even though I agree that she seems to have real feelings for him), as well as on other things if she could get his flustered reactions (which I think is part of his appeal to her ^^). And yes, Crew GUYS members are just wonderful together (yeah, I can see all of them together in one big relationship too (something like ot6? not sure of the notation)). Probably one of the better teams I've seen in terms of interactions among the team members (and I think almost everyone has some back-story). As for other relationships, I find them adequate enough, but I still think Mebius shines best on the Crew GUYS characters.

Yullian was Ultraman 80's girlfriend? Never really watched 80, so I didn't know that. But in general, I hope Ultramen, especially those who made their own human forms, have no significant others before coming to Earth and subsequently having romantic relationships with humans, because it would be cheating otherwise.

Then it's very naughty of Seven to have a relationship with Anne on Earth while he has a son back on his own planet ...

Ah, I thought so too. I read someone thought Anne was the mother, but I don't think that's possible, unless there is time-warping or other phenomena I don't know about. (And Zero's mother seemed to be a scientist, hence a blue Ultra, but I'm not sure how accurate that information was, or if it was only someone's fanfic idea.)

Edited to add missing thoughts...

Edited at 2010-08-27 07:47 am (UTC)
26th-Aug-2010 10:48 pm (UTC)
I'm not really a shipper either, but if we try to consider all possibilities, Sakomizu/Misaki sort of works, and George/Marina occurred to me already while I was watching the series - why else did Marina get so upset when George was dancing with that scientist girl, whose name I forgot? And while on that subject, was George just dancing with her, or was he dancing with her *wink wink nudge nudge*

If it were not for the first commenter, I would have totally forgotten about Aya, but she is totally shippable with Mirai. Serizawa/Ryuu is definitely shippable - why else would Ryuu be so upset about Serizawa's death if he were just his boss? Sako/coffee cup and Bogal/Serizawa really made me lol :D

Well, if I disregarded the canon shipping evidence which pretty much points towards George/Marina and Mirai/Ryuu, I would totally ship Mirai/George. That episode where Mirai challenged George, and George missed the goal, and Mirai was all so sorry about that - awww, that sort of moment totally make my fangirl senses tingling. Mirai/George would totally work - Mirai is gullible enough to be impressed by what George does and nice enough not to mind George being an egoist again.
27th-Aug-2010 05:27 am (UTC)
Yes, Asami Fujisawa certainly made Marina upset (and most likely jealous) when she (Asami) got all hot and sweaty with George. (And I can't believe what I just typed...) But, come to think of it, Asami appeared to know everything about GUYS members, so maybe she might actually be trying to help Marina along. And Asami is Misaki's friend. If Asami thinks Misaki needs help, or something, on her sort of canon relationship with Sakomizu, I wouldn't put it past Asami to try something similar solely to make Misaki...well...jealous is probably not the right word, maybe kind of bothered is better. (Sako/Asami would make a good crack pairing, and I kind of want to see fic on them. :)

Same here about forgetting. I'm not sure everyone is willing to see Mirai and Aya, however, since I don't think everyone loves Aya (which kind of puzzles me a little, but I don't remember where I read that anymore. And even if I do remember, I'm not going to cause trouble and ask for clarification). Serizawa/Ryuu is totally shippable, true. I was going to include them in the examples, but they don't seem out of ordinary enough (and power imbalance doesn't bother me for some reason, probably because Serizawa in real time is stripped of his rank). And I admit to not remembering if the coffee cup one is totally my idea, but the Bogal one is definitely not. In any case, glad those two made you lol. :)

Mirai/George is a good ship, and I agreed with your reasons for shipping them on my first read. Because upon thinking further, I'm not sure just how long Mirai can remain impressed by George's actions. And I think Mirai would not hesitate to verbally smack George down for being an egoist either if he thinks what George does is getting out of hand (because if he always tolerates egoist!George, their relationship wouldn't be too healthy anymore, imho). So I suppose if I'm going to ship them seriously, I need to find more reasons (like George being fascinated by Mirai's oddball behaviors (or at least find them refreshing and/or amusing), or something. And yes, this alone could get tiring, hence my need to look for more reasons to support this ship). Oh well, in short, if I'm ignoring logic and everything, their scenes in episode 5 (and 29, and 45) were enough for me to ship them.
27th-Aug-2010 09:09 am (UTC)
I previously thought it a long shot but after reading your comments I reckon it's safe to suggest Toriyama/Maru! Those two were so cute in the whole series.

BTW could you tell me how to edit my comment? I've not been on LJ for long and it often confused :S
27th-Aug-2010 09:29 am (UTC)
Well, not exactly as a serious ship, but yeah, Tori/Maru would be cute. :) (Episode 20 is the first episode that came to mind...though I'm sure there are many others.)

Ah, as far as I know, only those with paid or permanent accounts can edit their comments. So, speaking only for myself, I don't mind if you want to delete and re-post any of your comments. :)
27th-Aug-2010 01:57 pm (UTC)
Lol, I thought about that, too, but then - it's Toriyama, that's just weird :DDD Besides, I was absolutely convinced one of them, or both are married? Not sure why I thought that, maybe it was mentioned somewhere in the series...
27th-Aug-2010 02:17 pm (UTC)
Hmm, somehow I don't really see Sakocchi and Asami as a couple, he behaves more like her favourite uncle :) I wonder whether Asami would try to help Marina that way - Marina is the sort of person who would prefer to sort her relationship out herself. But George was pretty serious about Asami, I think - he even jumped into the pool for her :)

Well, it's always a problem when the main character gets a canon girlfriend - viewers often think she is not good enough for the hero :) Serizawa/Ryuu is pretty obvious in the series, but you're right - it's not really extraordinary.

I read them here, so I'll consider them your ideas ^_^ Thanks for the laugh :D

Yeah, but if George was in a relationship with Mirai, he would probably be influenced by Mirai's personality and be less egoistic. I'm sure their relationship would be even healthier than with Marina - with her they would just end up bickering forever :D As for George's reasons to be interested in Mirai - well, he said it himself that Mirai is a good guy. I get the feeling that George was always a loner and he had not had all that many good friends - even in GUYS, which is probably the closest thing to team he ever had, he has some sort of rivalry with Ryuu, and I get the feeling he is a bit protective of Teppei, but that's about it. And Mirai has such a warm, caring personality that George can finally stop pretending to be a cool guy around him... Lol, anyhow, it's possible to make this ship work, if there is a will, there is a way :DD
27th-Aug-2010 05:38 pm (UTC)
I agree totally, that's why they would only be a crack pairing to me, and I pity anyone (in the series) who actually thinks Asami would ever be serious about Sakomizu. And helping Marina is just a possibility (which might be unlikely, true) that comes to mind, I'm not saying Asami doesn't have any selfish motive for getting close to George. As for Marina, she might not know what she wanted regarding her relationship up until then, but Asami's flirting with George (for whatever reason) most likely had opened Marina's eyes. Now, George himself, I'm not sure whether he just got swept up in the moment, or he was actually developing serious feelings for Asami. I'm inclined to believe it is the former, though. As for him jumping into the pool, I believe he would have done that for anyone (well, at least anyone of the good guys) he thought to be in danger.

Ah, maybe it's just something like that (she's the main character's canon love interest) and not anything about Aya herself, which is better than what I thought then. :) And Serizawa/Ryuu was like the first (or one of the first) ship I saw. It's rather normal and obvious, if not exactly healthy (Ryuu's obsession with his former captain, who I can't decide is dead or not).

You're welcome. :) As far as I know, it was jeff_morris who first came up with the Bogal idea, but I guess the coffee cup one seemed to be more of my idea (because other people might have said coffee maker instead), I think. And there is also Mirai/curry, which I just got reminded of by madsqueeble. (It's totally canon, anyway. :)

I agree, it might even be better for George to be with Mirai than to be with Marina. Mirai would not bicker with George endlessly, and he would actually listen to what George says. And I like what you say about George's relationships with most of his teammates, though I'm a bit disappointed that you haven't mentioned Konomi. Doesn't George relate to her at all, other than being her co-worker, that is? Not even in a protective sense like he feels with Teppei? Good point about Mirai's caring nature, though, and George could be free to let his cool guard down at last (though I like to think he would do that for other GUYS members too, as he learns to be comfortable and trust them, although most likely not for Ryuu or Marina, sadly enough). So, yeah, it's totally possible to make Mirai/George work. :)
28th-Aug-2010 05:03 am (UTC)
Yeah, I'd go with the Sakomizu/coffee maker. He takes it to bed with him in ep. 3! OTP! OTP! <--j/k
28th-Aug-2010 05:02 am (UTC)
I didn't mind Aya in the movie, but in the TV series she makes me hiss and spit. Not entirely sure why. I think it's mainly that it seems to me that it isn't so much that she's interested in dating/relationship with Mirai as she's just trying to stick close to him and observe him to confirm her suspicion that he's Mebius. So it comes across to me like she's just messing with him, and it annoys me because he doesn't get it, and it isn't something that he would get. To some extent he's taking her attention as genuine (though at the same time I don't think he really understands what she's getting at when she's asking him if he's got anyone special) and she's just teasing him to watch his reaction. I forgive her somewhat later on when she starts defending him to Hirukawa, and cheering Mirai on. But by that point she'd so irritated me that I just couldn't really accept her.

Alternately, it could simply be that I'm enough of a Mirai/Ryuu fangirl that I'm just doing the fangirl thing of "get away from my bois you ebil hussy!" I do not claim to be above being that shallow! :)
28th-Aug-2010 10:37 am (UTC)
Ah, thank you for telling me your thoughts on Aya. Yes, now that you mention it, I think I can see how Aya might have irritated you. I agree that she's definitely messing with Mirai, but I don't think she has a bad intention (I don't think you say that, but I am at a loss of how to phrase what I mean) or anything. Aya seems to me more like someone outgoing and friendly and a busybody (in fact, probably got that from her grandfather) than someone who would be deliberately calculating (in asking for a date just to catch out Mirai). That might be a script problem, or something lost in translation, because I really get an impression that Aya is simply effusive in her actions and pretty much harmless. Yes, Aya is (good-naturedly, imho) making fun of him, and it would bother me if it seems to me that Mirai doesn't have any idea that she's doing so, but I think he is aware that he's being teased, to some extent, just not knowing what exactly he does that prompts her reaction, and cannot help getting flustered in any case, which prompts her to tease him even more.

But yeah, for all that is said and done, I don't think I have feeling for this pairing beyond, 'look cute together' (which is strange for me, since I usually support canon couples). So I'll join you in being shallow and stay with Mirai/Ryuu. :)
27th-Aug-2010 03:47 pm (UTC)
I can see it but it doesn't mean I have to like it:
Ryuu/Mirai, reversible

I see it and approve:
George/Marina, reversible
Tori/Marina, platonic
Sakomizu/Misaki, reversible
Hikari/Zamusha reversible

Mebius/Hikari, reversible

...And of course you can make monster Bogarl work. It would have to be vore, though, and that is Not My Kink.
27th-Aug-2010 04:58 pm (UTC)
Ah, sure, you can see a ship but you don't necessarily have to like it. :)

So it should be Aya/Mirai. That makes sense...

I've always liked Mirai/curry. :) It simply slipped my mind until now (I wonder why, since it's practically canon). Tori/Marina, yeah, that could work (episode 27, off the top of my head). And I think you've convinced me of Hikari and Zamusha. :)

I think Mebius/Hikari (or vice versa) is the one I'm most conflicted on. Probably mainly because I don't have any experience shipping Ultras. But I can see how much you like the pairing. :)

Vore (if it is what I think it is) isn't my kink either (^^;;) but somehow I half want to see it if someone ever does write it. My feeling on that would probably be fascination mixed with horror, I think.

I was kind of hoping to be surprised when I saw you had a long list, but nevertheless I appreciate that you took the time to write your pairings (whether you like them or not) for me. :)
28th-Aug-2010 01:06 am (UTC)
Marina's the one who started calling him Tori-pi. Pet name, much? ;P
28th-Aug-2010 09:37 am (UTC)
That is a good point. I kind of forgot that she actually named him, like he is, yeah, her pet or something. ^^;
28th-Aug-2010 03:14 pm (UTC)
Not Toriyama; Touri the Anhel Seijin, from the 'Marina time travels' episode.
28th-Aug-2010 03:15 pm (UTC)
>> Aya/Mirai
Yep, Aya's pretty driven; she looks like she knows what she wants.
28th-Aug-2010 04:17 pm (UTC)
That she does. :) In a way, I kind of like that, if her going after what she wants is not done at a cost to something or someone...

...And again, I'm sorry for misreading Tori/Marina. Was wondering for a moment why the name was abbreviated, but didn't occur to me to ask you whether Tori referred to Marina's good alien or to Toriyama. I feel rather embarrassed about this and will try to not be so careless in the future.
28th-Aug-2010 01:04 am (UTC)
Oh yeah, I forgot about Zamusha.

If you're going to throw in Ghost Rebirth there's also Mebi/Mechazam.
28th-Aug-2010 06:18 am (UTC)
My goodness, how I could I forget?! FORGIVE ME MECHAZAM!

Filing Mebi/Mechazam, reversible, under PIERCE THE HEAVENS WITH YOUR GAR.
4th-Sep-2010 11:45 am (UTC)

Mebi/Mechazam ~~~~~<3
4th-Sep-2010 02:57 pm (UTC)
I don't usually like to ship Mebius with other people, but that one practically begs for it. ^^

And btw, since I don't think I know, do you have some other pairing you see and/or like? Don't have to tell me, though, if you would rather not. I'm just curious. ^^;
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